Curse

Dace Hunters · Jan 28, 2009, 10:40 PM // 22:40

This is just a little build i made a couple of months ago, Someones probably posted a similar build before but i thought i'd share it with you. Ive been using it mostly in RA, and judging from the amount of people that swear at me i think it works pretty nicely.

The obvious downsides are the recharge on serpents and the lack of healing/defense, but give it a try before you flame me. You might be surprised

Shadow Arts = 12 + 1 + 1
Dagger Mastery = 9 + 1
Critical Strikes = 8 + 1

[build=OwJkgVd5HPiEyxHjAk/DCjAAB0lI]

With a pair of silencing daggers you can pretty much maintain daze for around 30 seconds on a target, energys pretty good and theres plenty of conditions to cover daze. Give it a try and lemme know what you think

ele pl · Jan 28, 2009, 11:10 PM // 23:10

It has no IAS, nor IMS, that is very, very useful, if not necessary. Also, i see that Way of Perfection is here for golden lotus. Maybe take other enchant, for example Assassin's Remedy

Zodiac Meteor · Jan 28, 2009, 11:39 PM // 23:39

Eww, 12 shadow arts and 9 daggers. I play around with haze. Serpents is pointless with it.

You can kill your target before daze ends, which for me is about 6 seconds. Extra 2 seconds is pointless. 15 second recharge for twisting fangs, bring another dual attack.

turbo234 · Jan 29, 2009, 12:15 AM // 00:15

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Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor

Eww, 12 shadow arts and 9 daggers. I play around with haze. Serpents is pointless with it.

You can kill your target before daze ends, which for me is about 6 seconds. Extra 2 seconds is pointless. 15 second recharge for twisting fangs, bring another dual attack.

i agree with most of your post, except taking another dual attack.

Lusciious · Jan 29, 2009, 12:55 AM // 00:55

this is what i think about it, i think its not really good. theres no need for serpents quickness, all you need to do if you have BH is kill the damn monk, BH in and kill him/her with a good spike. that spike isnt gonna do that. if you're going for pressure, i'd rather you use WotA ( for IAS and critical rate ) , golden fox strike , wild blow and death blossom. oh and sins are made for spiking not pressuring.

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/D_Haze_Gank <-- works well if you know what you're doing

Bobby2 · Jan 29, 2009, 01:35 AM // 01:35

Daze doesn't kill, dagger attacks do. Get srs Dagger Mastery.

6+1 Shadow gives 6 second Daze, leaving bucketloads of att points for actual pwnage
could even run Silencing for 8 (the full 33% woot)...
but as Zodiac explained you don't even need to go there.

Also, get a snare and/or an IMS. This Daze won't stick unless the opposing monk is high.

Damian979 · Jan 29, 2009, 04:21 PM // 16:21

Low damage, no points in ws means a 30 sec cooldown on sq and 8 sec of single target poison, one enchant strip away from auto attacking with no IAS, 14 points in sa for the use of one skill (the effects of WoP are nearly non existent with no IAS, 10 dagger, and 9 crit), long recharge weak attack chain with or with out sq.

I think that about covers it, nty.

Balky · Jan 29, 2009, 06:46 PM // 18:46

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Originally Posted by Dace Hunters;

but give it a try before you flame me. You might be surprised

Shadow Arts = 12 + 1 + 1
Dagger Mastery = 9 + 1
Critical Strikes = 8 + 1

[build=OwJkgVd5HPiEyxHjAk/DCjAAB0lI]

Not a chance of that in here, post anything that isn`t a knocklock build and you`ll get abuse.

I`ve posted something along similar lines in a topic further down forum, one thing i will say though is get your Crit and DM up , way of perfection is useless otherwise

Oh and get a Nomex suit ! Some muppets in here lack originality

moriz · Jan 29, 2009, 08:19 PM // 20:19

[beguiling haze][iron palm][falling spider][twisting fangs][signet of deadly corruption][signet of toxic shock][dash]

not a knocklock build, and works infinitely better than both of your builds. you were getting flamed for posting a horrible build and stubbornly trying to defend it (and insulting everyone with anything bad to say about it), and not because it is not of a certain type.

Bobby2 · Jan 29, 2009, 08:20 PM // 20:20

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Originally Posted by Balky

Not a chance of that in here, post anything that isn`t a knocklock build and you`ll get abuse.

Plenty of working Sin builds with only 1 KD, so I'll call BS here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balky

I`ve posted something along similar lines in a topic further down forum, one thing i will say though is get your Crit and DM up , way of perfection is useless period

Fixed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balky

Oh and get a Nomex suit ! Some muppets in here lack originality

Fits well with the Carebear jammies

Tyla · Jan 29, 2009, 09:49 PM // 21:49

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Originally Posted by Balky

Oh and get a Nomex suit ! Some muppets in here lack originality

Are you the originality police?

If you really want maintainable Daze, grab Skull Crack, save 15 energy, your stance slot and a skill slot. Yes, Skull Crack. Got a problem?!

(Might try that when I get used to this f*cking tiny keyboard - netbook keyboards are lame.

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Super Igor · Jan 31, 2009, 12:00 PM // 12:00

no ims no ias you waste two slots for silly surviveability an poison? eww

Big_Daddy · Feb 01, 2009, 04:50 AM // 04:50

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Originally Posted by moriz

[beguiling haze][iron palm][falling spider][twisting fangs][signet of deadly corruption][signet of toxic shock][dash]

That is one sweet build. Can you tell me the stats to play it?

moriz · Feb 01, 2009, 03:03 PM // 15:03

can't quite remember, but i believe it's 12+2 deadly arts, 10+1 crit, 8+1 shadow arts, and 2+1 dagger.